I got my expanded 67 marker YDNA test results this week from Family Tree, over a month late. Apprentely, they are still fine tuning this latest test. The most expansive YDNA test on the market. When I signed on for it they only offered 59 markers, but they decided to extend it.

No se pueden adjuntar archivos a los mensajes de la lista ya que muchos
usuarios solamente reciben sumarios de mensajes. Si quieres compartir algun
archivo, por favor subelo a una carpeta de archivos.

I just found Worldconnect and discovered my files there! I didn't know I sent them.. Do the sites share information since I did sent these files to Ancestryfamily Tree. This was a surprise to me but I'm glad there is more than one place my files can be accessed.

This is what I have found necessary to take to the FHC:

briefcase, with dividers, pockets;
three pens, two black, one red;
a turquoise Sharpie;
mini dry-line correction tapes (you will make boo-boos)

I just looked at the gedcom files section for the first time and found how interesting it is that I made so many mistakes! I don't think I'm alone but boy what a shocker to find the same families under so many different headings, no wonder our ancestors are so hard to find.. For example, it could read De La Cueva, Cueva or Cuevas. V's and B's are interchangable so are they Viramontes or Miramontes, Cortez or Cortes, De La Paz, Paz or Pas.. the same goes for cities or ranchos.. Just in one Rancho I've found it as Los Rodartes, Rodartes and Rodarte... Aros, Aro or Los Haro, Los Haros... so much for me to learn yet.. I don't think I'm the only one who's gotten confused more than once!

Yolie,

I forgot to mention that when you fill out your transcription sheets, make sure that at the top of each you write in the film number, locality, type of records and dates, etc. You don't want to try to figure out the source later.

Dear list,
Ok, this is way toooo freaky! I posted 4 the 1st time last week with the encouragement of Alicia Carillo. My Post was in reference to my mother, Maria de Jesus Bravo & Gparents Ladislao Bravo & Maria Tinoco from La Ribera Jalisco. Separately & without mention in my post, I have also been searching (about 2 years) 4 info on my paternal gparents, Bernardino Lopez & Donaciana Gutierres from Guanajuato. Last evening I received an email from Erlinda (Linda in BC) providing me listings for them! Yes, that's excitement you detect in my e-voice! I just wanted to publicly thank Nuestros Ranchos, Alicia and of course, Linda in BC!

Yoli,
Another member of Nuestros Ranchos, Olivia Jauregui Reyes has some of your same ancestors. Go to≥ FILE≥ MEMBERS GENEAOLOGY≥OLIVIA JAUREGUI REYES≥NICOLAS TRANQULINO JAUREGUI, and you will find in her ancestry, Rosalio Jauregui and Pomposa Gonzales of Nochistlan. I think If remember correctly you were also related to a few other people from this group, It may have been Pat Corbera's husband Tino but I could be mistaken, give it a look.

Digest Etiquette

Hello,

If you are subscribed to the email lists via the Digest mode there are
two important things you must do EVERY TIME:

1) change the subject to reflect the message you are sending. . .do not

i was told by alicia avelar, that you had ancestors from jalpa zacatecas, with the surname viramontes. i am also searching for ancestors from jalpa,my grandfather benjamin viramontes and his brother ramerio.

Will "Ranchos" set up a place in its files for us to upload and
compare our DNA results? It may be helpful for us to be able to
compare our DNA with one another. It's another dimension of research

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Subject: Somos Primos JULY 2006 Table of Contents lq1
Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 20:26:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: MIMILOZANO@aol.com
To: MIMILOZANO@aol.com

Click here: Somos Primos: Dedicated to Hispanic Heritage and Diversity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_%C3%81vila_Camacho

The above link is for a brief bio on the winner of Mexico's 1940 election along with a history of his administration.

Since we are celebrating our American democracy today and in view of the recent Mexican presidential election, I found the following article very interesting as I am one not familiar with Mexican history. The outgoing Presidente Fox seems to be part of an ongoing disappointing struggle to bring true democracy to the land of our forebears. I found this article in an old magazine that was part of my husband's stepfather's effects left in an old trunk. Maybe someone in the group can tell us briefly what has occurred since this article was written.

I had mentioned to the group that my local FHC here in Port Orchard, WA would be closed at the end of May, and I was afraid that the 35 films I have on loan would be sent back to Salt Lake, but since then everything that was in the local FHC was moved to the nearby Bremerton, WA FHC lock, stock and barrel. Myself and a few other regular patrons have been helping the director of the new combined library relocate both Port Orchard and Bremerton libraries to their new location on the third floor of the building where the former Bremerton FHC was located. We moved everything from the basement there to the third floor, and I just recently helped to combine the permanent loan films from both libraries and was pleased to see all my films there. We were pleased to see that we now have many more films, etc. available to us although since I am the only Hispanic doing research, the only films from Mexico are mine.

Here is my maternal lineage that I discussed in my post “No Tengo Verguenza.” I’ve posted an asterik * by my great grandfather, the one who his grandchildren believed had been born in Spain. As you can see, he and all of his ancestors were born in Chihuahua.

Hello!

I am interested in the haciendas in Zacatecas, Particularly in hacienda del
Mezquite,(Fresnillo) and Hacienda de San Juan de Ahorcados, jurisdiccion de
Mazapil. I would appreciate any historical information such as living

That's about what I anticipated. I consider those very small numbers of European soldiers. There for a very brief period. Probably gringo tourists have had a greater genetic impact on Mexico.

Way more Mexicans volunteered for the left leaning Republicans during the Spanish Civil War against conserative Generalisimo Francisco Franco and his fascist Falange Party.

Again, how "sweet it is," another linking with "familia." Though distant in "kinship," it's still a linking through common ancestors, and to quote Deena, "about two dozen ways."

Thank you Deena, Charles and NuestrosRanchos.,

I should be ashamed to say so after the escandalo I made about misspellings. But I have no shame. No tengo verguenza. Nunca tuve.

I’ve been researching my maternal side for many years with little luck.

A wonderful way to honor family members that served in WWII is to place their name at the WWII War Memorial in Washington D.C. The website address is http://www.wwiimemorial.com...
Pat

Jose Aguayo has probably been there before...sounds like it.

Joseph, perhaps things have now changed from the time I went. I hope my
research takes me to Spain next year also....I am always ready to travel.

About the mistaken listings in the "Caribbean" -

Some years ago while researching the CABI & CADI (California Birth/Death Records) I kept finding very Spanish surnames of people supposedly born or dying in Maine, including one of my relatives that I knew had never left California. Then I realized that the old abbreviation for Mexico was ME, and when the records were switched over to a supposedly more modern system, all these Mexico-born Californians "became" residents of Maine!

Enrique Legaspi Frias' GEDCOM has been moved from the Files section into the GEDCOM database so it is now viewable and searchable directly from the site with no need to download it. The file includes hundreds of names from Nochistlan, Mexticacan, Teocaltiche, El Tuiche, Toyahua, La Estancia.

I consider other spellings as alternate spellings rather than mis spelllings.

It might be offensive to some people to say their ancestors mis spelled their own names.

For example, it was actually correct to spell Felipe with a "Ph" rather than an "F," before around 1700. That's why the archipelago off the coast of Asia is called the Philippines, but the people are called Filipinos in Spanish and English (and Pilipino in Tagalog, the language of the islands which has no F or Ph sound).